How To Recess A Firewall On A 1934 Ford Five Window Coupe

Building Blower Room with a Fine-Style Firewall

By Gerry Burger

We’ve been following along with Troy Gudgel and the team at BBT Fabrications as they transform Bill Sather’s 1934 ford five window coupe from a rough old hot rod into a state-of-the-art exercise in modern rodding. After re-chopping the coupe (see Modern Rodding Mar. ’21 issue)  Gudgel turned his attention to building a better firewall.

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02 1934 ford five window coupe Firewall Modification
As old hot rods go, this firewall was not badly mangled. Often old hot rods had a battery box in the firewall and plenty of extra holes everywhere. However, making room for a blower motor and automatic trans meant a new firewall was in order.

After blasting the original firewall clean, it uncovered the original 1934 Ford five window coupe firewall modified in typical hot rod fashion of years past. Actually, as original hot rod firewalls go, this one was in above-average condition. The typical notch had been welded in for distributor clearance. The four mounting holes told us at one time the car had a power brake master cylinder mounted to the driver side firewall over a reinforcing plate that had been welded in place when the distributor notch was formed. Once again we’ve seen worse modifications and many more holes, but this coupe was being completely transformed so this firewall had to go.

03 Modern Hot rod gets a recessed firewall for a larger blower motor
After removing the lower half of the firewall, the new 427 LS motor and 4L75E transmission was bolted in the frame.

Three major differences would dictate the shape of the new firewall. First, the new chassis would incorporate an under-the-floor Wilwood master cylinder. This location facilitates 1934 Ford factory-style, through-the-floor pedals, eliminating the firewall-mounted swing pedals once fitted to this old hot rod.

04 1934 ford five window coupe getting the frame fabricated and tack-welded
The cowl was crossbraced with box tubing to ensure the cowl did not move when the upper portion of the firewall was removed. Then a flange was formed to fit the entire perimeter of the cowl.

The second major change to affect the shape of the firewall was the new 427 LS blower motor from Texas Speed now nestled between the frame rails. This required a deeper recess to allow access to the distributor and the rear of the blower.

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05 Classic Hot rod 34 ford getting custom chassis fabrication
This closer look shows the 90-degree flange fitted to the cowl and held in place with Cleco fasteners. The flange was formed using a Pullmax machine. It was built in several pieces and then welded together to fit the cowl.

Finally, the third major change was forming a transmission tunnel to provide clearance for the 4L75E transmission. This change would drastically change the lower center portion of the firewall and also dictate the shape of the floor. Armed with these three requirements,  Gudgel pulled out the sheetmetal and put on the thinking cap.

06 Tack-Welding a recessed- firewall to fit LS blower motor
The upper portion of the new firewall was formed and fitted behind the newly mounted flange. Then the cut line was transferred to the new panel and it was cut to perfectly fit the flange. Once again, Cleco fasteners hold the panels in place.

Great modern hot rods incorporate equal portions of two things … form and function. Combining those two things will generally provide a good hot rod piece. When it came to form,  Gudgel wanted to maintain the general shape of the original firewall, including the shape of the stamped beads in the firewall. The new stampings on the upper firewall are not exact replicas, rather they are inspired by the originals. The lower portion of the firewall is completely different, so the stamped beads were designed to complement the upper stampings. This would provide a strong firewall with a design reminiscent of the original firewall while incorporating clearances for one very modern driveline.

07 34 Ford Five Window Coupe cutting up the new firewall to fit LS swap
After trimming the upper firewall panel to fit it was welded and metal finished to the newly formed flange. Next the piece that fits behind the motor and over the tranny is cut and formed to fill the opening. Lots more welding and metal finishing complete the basic shape of the firewall.

Having a vision and having the ability to convert that vision into reality can be challenging for the home builder, but this is simply what BBT Fabrications does on a daily basis. The first step was to remove the lower portion of the original firewall and install the engine and transmission to check for required clearances. Next the inside of the body was cross braced to ensure body alignment is not compromised while fitting the new firewall. After the cross bracing was in place, the top half of the firewall was removed and the inner structure was ground clean.

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08 Cutouts for new firewall on a 34 Ford Five Window Coupe hotrod
The next step is forming the beads in the firewall. A set of forms were fabricated from particle board and bolted to the firewall with a form on either side of the panel, basically creating a sandwich form with the sheetmetal in the middle.

Fabrication of the new firewall begins with a 90-degree flange formed around the entire perimeter of the firewall opening. This sounds simple, but is not easy. It involves multiple compound curves to make a perfect fit. Making curves in a 90-degree piece of sheet metal involves stretching the flat portion and shrinking the vertical portion. Using a Pullmax machine makes this a much simpler task. It still takes skill and patience to form the flange.

09 1934 Ford Five Window Coupe New Replacement Firewall for LS Blown Motor
This is the back side of the firewall, note the upper beads have been stamped in the panel while the lower panel is ready to have the particle board forms bolted in place. The metal finishing on this piece is so good it looks like it was stamped out in one piece.

The flange will be formed in multiple pieces and then welded together and metal finished before being fitted inside the cowl. This flange is the mount for the new firewall. Cleco fasteners through the cowl hold the fabricated flange in place while the firewall panels will be fitted to this flange.

10 New recessed firewall for classic hot rod tack-welded for Blown Motor
After running the lower panel through the Pullmax to stamp in the beads, the firewall was metal finished to perfection and welded into the cowl. The beads provide equal parts good looks and panel stiffening.

Next a poster board template was made for the shape of the top half of the firewall. This template was traced to a piece of 18-gauge steel and it was cut to shape. The proper angle was bent into the sheet metal and the piece of sheet metal was fit to the flange around the firewall opening. Next, two pieces of sheet metal were rolled to form the vertical pieces on each side of the firewall. This new firewall panel is trimmed to precisely fit the flange and then the two pieces are tack-welded together. After they are tack-welded in place, the final welding and metal finishing is completed. You now have a new firewall with a flange that fits the cowl perfectly.

11 X Brace on a classic Ford Five coupe transmission tunnel
From the inside you can see the precise fit of the firewall and also notice the transmission tunnel is now welded to the firewall. Note the floor and transmission tunnel is also flanged to provide a welding surface and additional strength.

The final piece to the firewall puzzle was the center piece that resides directly behind the motor. This piece was formed to fill the opening, go over the transmission, and also connect to the two vertical pieces of the upper firewall. It should be noted there are no square edges on the entire firewall and all bends are done on a radius for a smooth-flowing look. Adding to that “no square edge look” is the addition of an angle where the lower firewall panel meets the upper firewall panels. This angle really completes the smooth-formed look of the completed firewall.

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12 Custom fabricated hot rod with a recessed firewall for an LS Swap
The attention to detail and fine design is apparent on the finished panel. Note there are no sharp 90-degree edges, all panels are joined with smooth angles or a radius.

With the sheet metal work, welding, and metal finishing complete it was time to stamp the beads into the finished firewall. While a bead roller can sometimes be used to roll beads on a panel, in this case  Gudgel opted to stamp the beads into the panel using a Pullmax machine. Custom stampings involve building a set of forms from ¾-inch particle board. The design is carefully laid out on the particle board and the shape of the bead is formed with a router. These two panels must firmly fit over the sheetmetal, so the lower particle board panels were held together with 22 ¼-inch bolts, while the upper panel dies were sandwiched with 16 bolts.

13 1934 Ford Five Window Coupe Classic Roadster transmission tunnel 4L75E transmission paired to a blown LS swap
The fit of the transmission tunnel is clean and precise. Also note the chassis-mounted pedal now comes up through the floor connecting to the Wilwood master cylinder in the chassis.

The bolt heads must be countersunk to provide a smooth surface to feed through the Pullmax machine. You will need a particle board form on both sides of the panel, so clamp the two pieces of particle board together and cut the bead shape through both panels to ensure perfect alignment. With the design and shape of the bead cut into both pieces of particle board your stamping forms are complete. Think of it as a sandwich form, with the firewall panel in the middle.

14 Classic Hotrod with an Supercharged LS Swap and a custom recessed firewall fitted
OK, that blower motor is certainly good looking, but it is almost a shame to hide that new firewall. However, the good news is there is now ample clearance for the 427 LS motor topped with a BDS blower.

With the forms precisely located on the sheet metal panels and bolted in place, it is time to begin forming the beads.  Gudgel carefully fed the panel through the Pullmax machine as it hammered out the beads.

15 Custom fitted LS engine into a Classic Ford Five window coupe Custom with Texas Speed Engine
Looking from the passenger side we see ample clearance and the exhaust has been routed, providing ample clearance for the brake pedal. That big, bad beltdrive will provide the classic blower sound.

You now have a finished firewall that fits the body opening perfectly. Install the finished panel and hold it in place with Cleco fasteners. Tack weld the firewall to the body and then finish welding the firewall to the body, alternating welding sites to prevent warpage. Metal finish the welds, and just like that you have one very cool firewall with equal parts engine clearance, strength, and good looks. MR

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